It might not have been a problem for me personally because I am happy to shit in the woods, doss in my car and cook outside. There might well be police or others in authority reading this thread, and there do appear to be dangers just now.

To go to the Ochils, I have also driven more than 5 miles but it definitely feels local and within the spirit of the guidelines. But I'd be amazed if anyone could find any (scientific) evidence to suggest that activities which are safe 'about five miles' from your home become hazardous sixteen (or sixty) miles from your home - much less reckless. google_ad_slot = "8912903095"; P.W. Nothing sinister, it is tricky to socially distance in a court. Its a serious charge compared to the guys on the Cobbler. > I don't think there is really any real reason to believe that this sets a dangerous precedent and that this sort of thing is likely to continue beyond the unprecented situation of the pandemic. I certainly shouldn't be complaining - I've counted myself lucky right from the beginning of this not to be in a city and to have had great countryside within walking distance. Surely this can't be right? This law is usually used for behaviour with an immediate serious risk to health or life. > Personally I think it would take more than going for a hill walk to make out such a charge but until any (if any) action is taken by the procurator fiscal we won't know what the allegations are. Tough, but that's just the way it is. The fact that there are TWO MRT groups does help assuage some fears. The key it seems is clearly social distancing. Location: Arkansas No - definitely just my own assumption. I was past there last week - en route to the quieter Lossburn start for Dumyat - and some of the metal barriers in the parking bays had been moved and cars were in the gaps, so it looks like the locals are voting with their feet (or tyres). The essence of the issue for me seems to be whether Mountain Rescue should be used as an arm of law enforcement, as it is what is happening as far as I see it, and whether this may affect the issue of safety on the mountain due to how Mountain Rescue is perceived. Sign at road turn off at Logie Kirk this morning reminding people to keep their distance. – Tillicoultry GC is a good example of this. The problem is that this is a very, very important issue, and regardless of how you feel about individuals flouting guidelines, it's paramount to denounce this flagrant abuse of power and process by the police. > Castle Campbell car park (and the top bit of the road) has been shut, but that's NTS rather than council. This p*ssing about that Boris is indulging in is just making it take longer for infections to fall to near zero where it will be safe for everyone to get out. I'm not long back in from yet more Ochiling (very nice once the wind dropped) and have just seen pics of the large and fairly crammed-together crowds in Glasgow Green - presumably with few if any charges being brought by the police. It has never been used for conduct which would have been lawful closer to home. Officers and members of Killin Mountain Rescue Team were subsequently deployed to rescue the individuals who had not been suitably equipped for the climb. No, it refers to the the couple rescued at the weekend being charged by the police with culpable and reckless conduct. Having said that, for all I know maybe there are golfers moaning at having to play their local course rather than going to St. Andrews or wherever, just like a hillwalker might be moaning about having to make do with the Pentlands rather than going to Glencoe! Why do you think you would have deserved to be pilloried?

And, by implication, if you flout the guidance, you should presumably continue to feel concerned. > Do you know the nice car park on the back road, below the Law Hill path system? Jim Wins 2018 PKC Treeing Walker Championship Final! There is a significant gulf in my view between drinking 15 units of booze in a week (advised against) and punching people in the face (illegal - as i understand it - not a lawyer!). It might be true that we should all drive a bit less, that locals don't like outsiders and that people leaving rubbish is very unpleasant. I don't see many details, but given how nice weather was, I can only assume the walkers did take a risk more than they were comfortable with. Will I ever do so in future ?? Potentially that allows someone in, say, the middle of Glasgow to treat the city boundary as the edge of their community and head to some quiet bit of the Campsies or wherever for a walk. UKC Forums > Departments > UKC Coonhounds (Moderated by: Allen / UKC) (Users Browsing this Forum: Dealer, Phil Peterson, chuck cain, ernie h, Treesinging, RedSealKennels, jbarr, Dave Richards, Mnthunter1974) Subscribe to this Forum Mark this Forum Read : Forum: Posts: Threads: Last Post: Moderator: Breeds Chat about our various coonhound breeds here: American Leopard Hounds, Black & … [I include myself in the pin head angel counting.

> This leaves me worried that were I to say drive to Menstrie (four-point-something miles from where I live) then walk to Blairdenon (more than five miles) and require rescue, there might be consequences. Pretty sure the top car park is NTS, and possibly the upper section of road too. Likewise some individuals in the hill-journalism field - suddenly they seem far more interested in tweeting about Trump or Cummings rather than about what's going on under their own noses. American Leopard Hounds, Black & Tans, Blueticks, English, Plotts, Redbones, Treeing Walkers and X-Bred dogs. I never want to see my right to take risks in the hills taken away. The point is that guidelines are guidelines not law. ), The November issue of COONHOUND BLOODLINES, World Championship Final Cast Play By Play.

Someone (not them) has called mountain rescue and they have been found to be fine.

> The restrictions need to be blanket in nature, otherwise they would just lead to chaos. In a city there might be a different perspective. They can't have hundreds of - in themselves - perfectly reasonable exceptions for different activities or they will become unenforceable and everybody will be saying 'if they can do that then why can't I do this'. I think the problem is that they said 5 miles but that it was just a guideline and that it might be more as long as you stay "local". Very enjoyable. It is not apparent why driving say 50 miles to exercise alone or with your household is a greater risk to the spread of the virus than driving the same distance expressly to meet someone from another household in another area. Plenty of material for The Angry Corrie, now Dave. That seems sensible to me, and on seeing it I felt, not for the first time during all this, that the politicians/civil servants (both UK and Scottish) were deliberately wording things vaguely to allow well-intentioned people a fair bit of wiggle room. Whether or not there will be a coronavirus regulations charge is also unknown. > Thanks for the link. Decided it was best to stick to just plodding about the hills after that.). In Edinburgh I don't see a problem with social distancing in the park near me. Thanks - I thus adjust my estimate upwards slightly. Yes, but these closures are about preventing places getting mobbed and trashed. This is not in reply to Robert in particular, it is just a general sense of oh for goodness' sake. > And, by implication, if you flout the guidance, you should presumably continue to feel concerned. ". > She wants to stop people catching Covid and spreading it about and she and the government scientists are trying to find a simple set of rules and guidelines to achieve that.

The idea that they will have to live with this charge hanging over them at what is already a desperate and uncertain time which will only get worse as the effects of the deepest downturn since before the industrial revolution take hold. I often noticed people not bothering to wash their hands or use hand sanitizer before coronavirus, maybe we should ignore that too - it is only guidance and not law after all... > I'm not saying that. Posts: 62, Born 9 21 20 out of hillbilly Knot x Gr Nite Ch Heavenly Stylish Maiden Knot have won over$70000 maiden is out of mafias mob boss and Heavenly Backwater Pearl pups SS and Per. The mental health implications have been serious in my household.

The take home message of the past 15 years is that the unthinkable is not unthinkable anymore  and I cannot commit to this level of trust. I'm saying that you should never end up in court when there is absolutely no evidence that you have broken any law. > The 5 mile suggestion Is in the ‘Getting Around’ section where it is in the same sentence as exercise and outdoor leisure. If people get into difficulties in the hills they should be clear that MR assistance is provided without cost and without judgement.”. Famous Tom Characters, Kima From Total Married, Optima Baron Lowracer, Maxime Saada Origine, Are Kat Graham And Candice King Friends, How To Play Shipment On Modern Warfare 2020, Weaver T46 Scope Review, How To Turn Off Ge Monogram Refrigerator, Charlie And Bella Fanfiction Lemons, Faces Of Death 2 Full Movie, Zuko And Katara Fanfic, Das Boot Season 2 Subtitles, Marlin Model 25 Parts, Six Feet Under Monologue, Ge Dryer Reset Button, Weeman Fiance Laura, Exercice Grande Section Maternelle Gratuit En Ligne, How Old Was Simeon When He Died, Sal Iacono Wife, Logic's Mom Dead, Charlie Chaplin Smile Lyrics, Boy Story Albums, Dark Souls 3 Strength Build, Ted Bundy Grandson, Cancer Symbol 69, Overcome Challenge Synonym, Choose Kind Essay, Tina Versace Net Worth, Best Batting Average In T20, Mta Bus Games, Alfa Romeo Tz2 Replica, Federal American Eagle 223 100 Rounds, Psvr 5 Red Flashes, Can I Use My Macy's Card At Dillard's, What To Say Instead Of Gypsy, Whoop Whoop Song, Geometry Dash Ships, Jordaan Mason Blog, Arjun Dev Paoli Dam Age, 1 Lb In2 To N M2, Landing Zone Lowboy Vietnam, How To Save A Neem Tree From Dying, Balanced Chemical Equation For Phosphorus Reacts With Magnesium, Jaydon Mickens Parents, Cornish Cross Growth Chart, Isuzu Diesel Engine Swap, James Hewitt Photos, Conchata Ferrell Death, Infection De La Glande De La Queue Du Chien, Red Is The Rose Poem, Marisa Peer Daughter, Jerwin Ancajas Net Worth 2019, Easton Axis 5mm Inside Diameter, Red Dead Redemption 2 Online Second Character, Not What I Meant Dodie Meaning, Tingling Sensation While Fasting, Ali Velshi Family, Altametrics Erestaurant Login Huddle House, Doc Hammer Paraplegic, Steve Torrence Wikipedia, Crossbow Hog Headshot, Ck2 Tribal Vs Feudal, Judah Friedlander Hats, Anne Sexton Yellow, Skinny Gossip Takedowns, Rappahannock River Fishing Spots, Kameeldoring Boerewors Recipe, Single Dad Apartments, 8th Grade Quiz Math, Kenmore Pur Ultimate Filtration Refrigerator Manual, Combien De Temps Dure Une Otite Sous Antibiotique, Frog Superhero Names, Whoop Whoop Song, Taco Bell Trump, Raymundo Bobby Bones Instagram, Meet Me By The Bean Meaning, Simple Lock On Se Not Working, What Does Fondue Mean In Ballet, Photography Name Generator, Noel Blanc Net Worth, Black Racer Snake Ohio, Hull Daily Mail Car Crash, Kathryn Boyd Height, Lol Omg Shadow Family, Chicago Drill Rappers, Is Steatoda Borealis Venomous, Drywall Primer Sealer, June Bugs Purpose, Bear Sounds In Words, Spread the love" />
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I know what you mean - I have the reverse situation where Dollar feels quite a bit "further out" than Tilli even though there's only a couple of miles between them. As far as I can see this pair did not break Phase 1 rules (and presumably this is why there's no mention of action under Covid legislation). I think it's a very distasteful form of punishment to advocate.

It might not have been a problem for me personally because I am happy to shit in the woods, doss in my car and cook outside. There might well be police or others in authority reading this thread, and there do appear to be dangers just now.

To go to the Ochils, I have also driven more than 5 miles but it definitely feels local and within the spirit of the guidelines. But I'd be amazed if anyone could find any (scientific) evidence to suggest that activities which are safe 'about five miles' from your home become hazardous sixteen (or sixty) miles from your home - much less reckless. google_ad_slot = "8912903095"; P.W. Nothing sinister, it is tricky to socially distance in a court. Its a serious charge compared to the guys on the Cobbler. > I don't think there is really any real reason to believe that this sets a dangerous precedent and that this sort of thing is likely to continue beyond the unprecented situation of the pandemic. I certainly shouldn't be complaining - I've counted myself lucky right from the beginning of this not to be in a city and to have had great countryside within walking distance. Surely this can't be right? This law is usually used for behaviour with an immediate serious risk to health or life. > Personally I think it would take more than going for a hill walk to make out such a charge but until any (if any) action is taken by the procurator fiscal we won't know what the allegations are. Tough, but that's just the way it is. The fact that there are TWO MRT groups does help assuage some fears. The key it seems is clearly social distancing. Location: Arkansas No - definitely just my own assumption. I was past there last week - en route to the quieter Lossburn start for Dumyat - and some of the metal barriers in the parking bays had been moved and cars were in the gaps, so it looks like the locals are voting with their feet (or tyres). The essence of the issue for me seems to be whether Mountain Rescue should be used as an arm of law enforcement, as it is what is happening as far as I see it, and whether this may affect the issue of safety on the mountain due to how Mountain Rescue is perceived. Sign at road turn off at Logie Kirk this morning reminding people to keep their distance. – Tillicoultry GC is a good example of this. The problem is that this is a very, very important issue, and regardless of how you feel about individuals flouting guidelines, it's paramount to denounce this flagrant abuse of power and process by the police. > Castle Campbell car park (and the top bit of the road) has been shut, but that's NTS rather than council. This p*ssing about that Boris is indulging in is just making it take longer for infections to fall to near zero where it will be safe for everyone to get out. I'm not long back in from yet more Ochiling (very nice once the wind dropped) and have just seen pics of the large and fairly crammed-together crowds in Glasgow Green - presumably with few if any charges being brought by the police. It has never been used for conduct which would have been lawful closer to home. Officers and members of Killin Mountain Rescue Team were subsequently deployed to rescue the individuals who had not been suitably equipped for the climb. No, it refers to the the couple rescued at the weekend being charged by the police with culpable and reckless conduct. Having said that, for all I know maybe there are golfers moaning at having to play their local course rather than going to St. Andrews or wherever, just like a hillwalker might be moaning about having to make do with the Pentlands rather than going to Glencoe! Why do you think you would have deserved to be pilloried?

And, by implication, if you flout the guidance, you should presumably continue to feel concerned. > Do you know the nice car park on the back road, below the Law Hill path system? Jim Wins 2018 PKC Treeing Walker Championship Final! There is a significant gulf in my view between drinking 15 units of booze in a week (advised against) and punching people in the face (illegal - as i understand it - not a lawyer!). It might be true that we should all drive a bit less, that locals don't like outsiders and that people leaving rubbish is very unpleasant. I don't see many details, but given how nice weather was, I can only assume the walkers did take a risk more than they were comfortable with. Will I ever do so in future ?? Potentially that allows someone in, say, the middle of Glasgow to treat the city boundary as the edge of their community and head to some quiet bit of the Campsies or wherever for a walk. UKC Forums > Departments > UKC Coonhounds (Moderated by: Allen / UKC) (Users Browsing this Forum: Dealer, Phil Peterson, chuck cain, ernie h, Treesinging, RedSealKennels, jbarr, Dave Richards, Mnthunter1974) Subscribe to this Forum Mark this Forum Read : Forum: Posts: Threads: Last Post: Moderator: Breeds Chat about our various coonhound breeds here: American Leopard Hounds, Black & … [I include myself in the pin head angel counting.

> This leaves me worried that were I to say drive to Menstrie (four-point-something miles from where I live) then walk to Blairdenon (more than five miles) and require rescue, there might be consequences. Pretty sure the top car park is NTS, and possibly the upper section of road too. Likewise some individuals in the hill-journalism field - suddenly they seem far more interested in tweeting about Trump or Cummings rather than about what's going on under their own noses. American Leopard Hounds, Black & Tans, Blueticks, English, Plotts, Redbones, Treeing Walkers and X-Bred dogs. I never want to see my right to take risks in the hills taken away. The point is that guidelines are guidelines not law. ), The November issue of COONHOUND BLOODLINES, World Championship Final Cast Play By Play.

Someone (not them) has called mountain rescue and they have been found to be fine.

> The restrictions need to be blanket in nature, otherwise they would just lead to chaos. In a city there might be a different perspective. They can't have hundreds of - in themselves - perfectly reasonable exceptions for different activities or they will become unenforceable and everybody will be saying 'if they can do that then why can't I do this'. I think the problem is that they said 5 miles but that it was just a guideline and that it might be more as long as you stay "local". Very enjoyable. It is not apparent why driving say 50 miles to exercise alone or with your household is a greater risk to the spread of the virus than driving the same distance expressly to meet someone from another household in another area. Plenty of material for The Angry Corrie, now Dave. That seems sensible to me, and on seeing it I felt, not for the first time during all this, that the politicians/civil servants (both UK and Scottish) were deliberately wording things vaguely to allow well-intentioned people a fair bit of wiggle room. Whether or not there will be a coronavirus regulations charge is also unknown. > Thanks for the link. Decided it was best to stick to just plodding about the hills after that.). In Edinburgh I don't see a problem with social distancing in the park near me. Thanks - I thus adjust my estimate upwards slightly. Yes, but these closures are about preventing places getting mobbed and trashed. This is not in reply to Robert in particular, it is just a general sense of oh for goodness' sake. > And, by implication, if you flout the guidance, you should presumably continue to feel concerned. ". > She wants to stop people catching Covid and spreading it about and she and the government scientists are trying to find a simple set of rules and guidelines to achieve that.

The idea that they will have to live with this charge hanging over them at what is already a desperate and uncertain time which will only get worse as the effects of the deepest downturn since before the industrial revolution take hold. I often noticed people not bothering to wash their hands or use hand sanitizer before coronavirus, maybe we should ignore that too - it is only guidance and not law after all... > I'm not saying that. Posts: 62, Born 9 21 20 out of hillbilly Knot x Gr Nite Ch Heavenly Stylish Maiden Knot have won over$70000 maiden is out of mafias mob boss and Heavenly Backwater Pearl pups SS and Per. The mental health implications have been serious in my household.

The take home message of the past 15 years is that the unthinkable is not unthinkable anymore  and I cannot commit to this level of trust. I'm saying that you should never end up in court when there is absolutely no evidence that you have broken any law. > The 5 mile suggestion Is in the ‘Getting Around’ section where it is in the same sentence as exercise and outdoor leisure. If people get into difficulties in the hills they should be clear that MR assistance is provided without cost and without judgement.”.

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